Ine Poppe on 22 Jun 2001 09:02:31 -0000 |
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Hi, here is my info Ine Poppe (NL) works in Amsterdam as an artist, writer, director. She made a mothermilkcheese (1983), made several televisionprograms, and did together with Jetty Verhoeff the web-artproject Women with beards http://www.dds.nl/~beards. Poppe published about technology & art, for instance: http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Netkunst/3D/ wrote the filmscenario NECROCAM, about a webcam in a coffin. She worked on multimediaprojects like Demi Dubbel Teletijdmachine http://www.waag.org/Waagsite98/whois.phtml?login=ine at the moment she works on a documentary about cyberculture. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clara Ursitti" <ursittiramsay@lineone.net> To: <oldboys@lists.ccc.de> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [oldboys] last call for changes and updates -- cvs > hiya, > > this is the last chance to add, change or update information before it goes > online. > pls. feel free to add yourself (data), if you want your cv be included on > the obn website. > > c. > > > > Alla Mitrofanova (RU) <twinsmi@yahoo.com> > lives in St. Petersburg. She graduated from St.Petersburg university as art > historian and philosopher. Alla is a writer, curator and editor of the > internet magazine "Virtual Anatomy": <http://www.dux.ru/vir> > 1990-94 main topics were nomadic subjectivity and nomadic semiotics, theory > of m. 1995-98 topics: body theory, post-information theory. > > > Amy Alexander (USA) <plagiari@plagiarist.org> > has worked in film, video, interactive media, net art, and programming. Her > net art work explores dynamic processes, temporal structures, and being a > script kiddie. She received her MFA from California Institute of the Arts, > and > also taught there for awhile. As of Fall 2001 will be living and teaching in > San Diego. Much of her work can be found at http://plagiarist.org > > > Barbara Rechbach (AU) <rage@cheerful.com> > lives in berlin. ma hypermedia studies at the university of westminster, > london. working with digital media - interactive multimedia, video, > webdesign. background in electronic arts and communication theory at the > academy for applied arts in vienna and the hypermedia research centre > london. > > >Clara Ursitti is literally led by the nose as her work is predominantly > >scent based. She is a Canadian/Italian, but has lived in Scotland since > >1993. She regularly exhibits internationally. She recently was awarded a > >Wellcome Sci-Art Grant and has been invited to participate in the > >Gothenburg Biennale 2001. ursittiramsay@lineone.net > > > > > Barbara Thoens (D) <nomade@cashh.ccc.de> > political scientist, video activist ("Hacker packen aus", a film by Rena > Tangens and Barbara Thoens), ex-bass-player, for more than 10 years active > member of the Chaos Computer Club, currently working as a programmer for the > weekly newspaper DIE ZEIT in the online department. > http://www.zeit.de > http://www.ccc.de > > > Bertha Jottar Palenzuela (USA) <bjp7185@is.nyu.edu> > is a video artist from Mexico City who lived and worked between Tijuana and > San Diego for eight years. From 1988-1991, she was a member of Border Art > Workshop/Taller de Arte Fronterizo. Founding member > of the art collective Las comadres and collaborator with the artist and > activist from Tijuana. Moved to New York in the Fall of 1994, Jottar is > currently working on an experimental documentary about Afro-Cuban rhuma > music in New York. She is finishing her Ph.D. in the Program of Performance > Studies at TISCH School of Arts at New York University. > > > Caroline Bassett (GB) <sppa1@susx.ac.uk> > is a lecturer in Media at Sussex University where she is researching > narrative and hypermedia. She is also a technology journalist and writer. > > > Claudia Reiche (D) <113052.1266@compuserve.com> > M.A., Dipl. VK, Literary and media scientist, author, performer, educational > work at the University of Hamburg and at the Academy for Fine Arts > Braun-schweig, on the staff of the Women's Culture House TheaLit Bremen, > (there: concept and organisation of "Künst-liches Leben:// > Mediengeschichten", laboratory on media art and theory: > http://www.thealit.dsn.de/LIFE/labor.htm. Actually member in the VW-research > project at the University of Hamburg "Bodyimages. Transformations of the > Human Being in media and Medicine" directed by Prof. Marianne Schuller, > focussing on "Living pictures. Medical visualization, artificial life and > electronic entertainment", especially the Visible Human Project. > Cyberfeminist member of the Old Boys Network. Curating with Helene von > Oldenburg "The Mars Gallery", the first international and interplanetarian > exhibition space for fine arts on Mars. > > > Cornelia Sollfrank (D) <cornelia@snafu.de> > is an artist, lives in Hamburg/Berlin/Celle, is lecturing at the University > of Oldenburg. Central to her conceptual and performative works are the > changing notions of art, the advent of a new image of the artist in the > information age, gender-specific handling of technology, new forms of > disseminating art, and communication and networking as art. She was a member > of the women artist groups 'women and technology'and '-Innen+' and initiated > the cyberfemininist organisation 'Old Boys Network'. Her project FEMALE > EXTENSION (1997) (http://www.obn.org/femext) was a hack of the first net.art > competition initiated by a museum, in which she flooded the museum's network > with submissions by 300 virtual female net artists. Her net.art generator > (http://www.obn.org/generator) automatically produces art on demand. She > published the readers "First Cyberfeminist International" (1988) and "Next > Cyberfeminist International" (1999) (http://www.obn.org/reader). Sollfrank > is currently producing work on the subject of female hackers. > (http:/www.obn.org/hackers) > > > Corrine Petrus (NL) > <corrine@tech-women.nl> > lives and works in Rotterdam. She is a computer-programmer with a great > interest in communication and in people. In the beginning of 1996 she > founded the Webgrrls Chapter in Holland and Belgium. Left Webgrrls in 1997. > Now Corrine has her own Computer Consultancy Business called Webdiva > http://www.webdiva.nl and is chairman a the new organisation, Tech Women > http://www.tech-women.nl > > > Ellen Nonnenmacher (D) <ellen@snafu.de> > was trained to be an artist in Hamburg. She was co-founder of frauen und > technik (women and technology), the once famous "-Innen", and she enjoyed > being an old boy for a while. Her harddisk is located in Berlin. > > > Faith Wilding (USA) <74447.2452@compuserve.com>, <fwild@andrew.cmu.edu> > is a multidisciplinary artist, writer,teacher, and cultural activist. She > was one of the founders of the feminist art movement in California, and has > exhibited, performed, and published her work on women and biotechnology > internationally. Currently she's a recombinant cyberfeminist collaborating > with feminist/activist groups such as subRosa and CAE to investigate new > possibilities for an embodied cyberfeminism. > Faith Wilding Home Page: http://www.art.cfa.cmu.edu/wilding/ > Subrosa Home Page: http://www.artswire.org/subrosa > > GashGirl (Adelaide/Rome) <dollyoko@thing.net> > has been working in the field of new media since 1984 as an arts manager, > curator, corporate geisha girl, cyberfeminist, puppet mistress and ghost. > Squandered hours investigating the artistic and erotic potential of > negotiated email relationships, online virtual communities and web-based > narrative architectures have been reverse engineered into multiple > immaterialities. > fleshmeat, her novella about love, lust and death on the net, will be soon > published. > <a href="http://www.thing.net/~dollyoko">dollspace</a> drifts through > haunted ponds, detestable pleasures and military bunkers testing the theses > that 'all women are ghosts and should rightly be feared', 'all history is > pornography' and 'laws are made by men who fuck their daughters'. > <a href=" http://www.thing.net/~dollyoko/LOSDIAS/INDEX.HTML">Los Dias y Las > Noches de los Muertos</A>, uses the soft architecture and screenal bodies of > the net to create a ghost work of counter-memories, opening thresholds of > impossibilities outside of pan-capitalism. > Recently GashGirl has morphed into Liquid Nation, a sibyl from future's > memory, joining <a Href=" > http://z.parsons.edu/~ludin/final_pages/indexold.html"> > Identity_Runners</a>, Ephemera and Discordia, throughout a weary > transportation of transmissions with time so small it stiches itself through > the imaginary framework as a voice revealing the thematics of our current > ruin. > Her online projects squat the screens at <a > href="http://sysx.org/gashgirl/">System-X</a>. > > > Helene von Oldenburg <113121.1464@compuserve.com> > lives in Rastede and Hamburg, Ger-many. She holds a doctor's degree of > Agricultural Science and a Diploma in Visual Arts. She is member of obn and > director of the Institut for Experimental Archnology. Selection of works: > "Der Imaginale Ort IV", Kunsthalle Hamburg (1991), "Nine Sculptures New York > 1993", The Thing <http//:www.thing.net>, "Information Molekules" a research > project in futurology (1994), "Traces of Future. New Ways of Experimental > Arachnology", Fernerkundung, TheaLit, Übersee Museum, Bremen (1996), > "Spider-Feminism", hybrid workspace, Kassel (1997), "Arachnoide Produktion/ > Schnittstelle Zukunft", Schnittstelle/ Produktion, Shedhalle, Zürich (1998), > "Arachnoide Öffentlichkeit: eine Experiment", Produktion/ Öffentlichkeit, > Kunsthalle Exnergasse, Wien (1999) > http://www.mars-patent.org > > > Ieva Auzina (LV) <ieva@re-lab.net> > art historian, lives and works in Riga, Latvia. Member of the e-lab crew. > > > Iliyana Nedkova (BG/GB) <translocal@fact.co.uk> > is an independent producer and researcher of old and new media art events. > She is currently an associate curator at the Foundation for Art & Creative > Technology - FACT, in Liverpool, where she has worked on "The Other Side of > Zero:Video Positive 2000", "Revolution98: ISEA98" and "Escaping Gravity: > Video Positive 1997". She is also a MPhil/PhD research student at the > School of Art and Design, Liverpool John Moores University. Her recent > projects and publications include "Spacecraft", "Virtual Revolutions", "The > Right One", "Crossing Over", "Communication Front", "Video Archaeology" and > "Seeing Through Flame". Iliyana regularly delivers talks at various > contemporary art forums and publishes widely. > > > Irina Aristarkhova (RU) > <aristarkhova@glasnet.ru> > received her MA from the University of Warwick (UK), with thesis entitled > "Women and Government in Bolshevik Russia" and defended her PhD thesis > "Female Identity in Contemporary French Psychoanalysis" in the Russian > Academy of Sciences. She teaches the post-graduate course "Subjectivity and > Difference" in the Institute of Sociology (Moscow), which is to be published > as a separate text-book this year. She also teaches courses in cyber-theory, > feminist aesthetics, body in art and culture and French feminism in Lasalle > SIA College of the Arts (Singapore). Currently she is preparing the first > journal in Russian feminist theory. She lives in Moscow. > > > Iliyana Nedkova (BG/GB) <translocal@fact.co.uk> > is an independent producer and researcher of old and new media art events. > She is currently an associate curator at the Foundation for Art & Creative > Technology - FACT, in Liverpool, where she has worked on "The Other Side of > Zero:Video Positive 2000", "Revolution98: ISEA98" and "Escaping Gravity: > Video Positive 1997". She is also a MPhil/PhD research student at the > School of Art and Design, Liverpool John Moores University. Her recent > projects and publications include "Spacecraft", "Virtual Revolutions", "The > Right One", "Crossing Over", "Communication Front", "Video Archaeology" and > "Seeing Through Flame". Iliyana regularly delivers talks at various > contemporary art forums and publishes widely. > Her evolving work can be seen on: > www.fact.co.uk > www.yourserver.co.uk/vr > www.ljudmila.org/co > www.idea.org/uk/cfront > > > Ina Wudtke (D) <ina@thing.de> > diploma at Hochschule für Bildende Künste, Hamburg/Germany (B.J. Blume). > Founded 1992 together with Claudia Reinhardt and Heiko Wichmann the Magazine > NEID. Brought the project NEID (=envy) on a higher, extended level > (transmedial works/shows ).Works with Vision, Sound, Word. Since 1992 > working > on a foto project called 'foto-studies'. Ina Wudtke takes photographs of > members of different social groups, such as soldiers (German Bundeswehr), > fan > groups, inhabitants of urban districts, Red Cross nurses, members of > religious > communities (NYC orthodox Jews) etc. Wudtke's serial photography reproduces > the aesthetic standards that subsume the individual within the different > groups, but also raises fundamental questions concerning this phenomenon. > With > the partial integratation of text in her presen-tation, her work provides a > subtle commentary. Lived in N.Y./Hamburg. Moved to Berlin. > > > Josephine Starrs (AUS) <starrs@autonomous.org> > is an Australian new media artist who has a schizoid relationship to new > technologies. While entranced with the playful possibilities of the medium, > she maintains a healthy paranoia of its obsessions and controlling > implications. She was a member of the cyberfeminist artist collective, VNS > Matrix, whose early performance work in virtual communities used irony and > humour to reveal the gendered biases hard wired into computer culture. > She worked with Leon Cmielewski to produce the CD-ROM "User Unfriendly > Interface", an ironic look at the hype surrounding cyberculture. Their > latest > projects include a computer game patch entitled "Bio-Tek Kitchen" and > "Dream Kitchen", an interactive animation on CD ROM. > http://sysx.org/dreamkitchen > http://www.anat.org.au/resistant-media/Bio-Tek/ > > > Julianne Pierce (AUS) julianne@anat.org.au > Member of the cyberfeminist artist group VNS Matrix: http://sysx.org/vns/ > Executive director of the Australian Network for Art and Technology: > http://www.anat.org.au > > > Kerstin Weiberg <weib@snafu.de>, <off.area@bethanien.de> > studied fine arts in the field of scupture, new media and performance > currently lives in Berlin and works in the field of computer aided > installation and web projects since 1990 collaborates with the cross media > performance group KONIC Thtr from Barcelona and since 1995 collaborates with > Richard Schuetz in context related installations and web projects > http://www.bethanien.de/off.area > http://www.thing.de/future-perfect > > > Mare Tralla [aka Disgusting Girl] (GB / Estonia) <mare@fuck.it> > is an Estonia-born artist who currently lives and works in London and > Tallinn. Presently, she is the Head of the E-Media Center at the Estonian > Academy of Arts. Her practice involves photography, video, installation, > performance and digital art. She co-curated "Private Views", a touring > exhibition of Estonian and British contemporary art and was a co-editor of > an accompanying academic book. Recently she designed and programmed a > collective CD-rom "Virtual > Revolutions". Her webwork is featured on http://www.artun.ee/~trimadu > http://www.yourserver.co.uk/vr/ > http://www.yourserver.co.uk/vr/private/views.html > > > Maren Hartmann (GB/D) <M.Hartmann@brighton.ac.uk> > is a Lecturer in Media and Communications at the University of Brighton in > the UK. She is also pursuing her PhD at the University of Westminster in > London(a combination of Media Studies and the Hypermedia Research Centre). > She has studied in Berlin and Brighton (Sussex), where she also worked on a > European research network project (EMTEL). Her current research work is > based around the metaphorical aspects of cyberspace as an emerging culture > (especially the users and amongst these the cyberflaneur and cyberflaneuse). > http://www.flaneur.net > > > Maria Fernandez <Xochipilli@compuserve.com> > is an art historian (Ph.D. Columbia University, 1993) whose > interests center on postcolonial studies, electronic media theory, Latin > American Art and the intersection of those fields. She has taught at > Columbia University, Carnegie Mellon University, the University of > Pittsburgh, the University of Connecticut at Storrs and at the Master of > Fine Arts Program at Vermont College. > Selected texts: "Postcolonial Media Theory" Third Text, 47 (summer, 1999) > expanded version in Art Journal, fall 1999. > Interview > CIE<http://www.nettime.org/nettime.w3archive/199711/msg00001.html> > "New Canons, Old Histories..." > http://www.cgrg.ohiostate.edu/Astrolabe/journal/inaugural/fernandez.html > > > Marieke van Santen (NL) > <marieke@tech-women.nl> > > > Marina Grzinic (SI) <margrz@zrc-sazu.si> > is doctor of philosophy and works as researcher at the Institute of > Philosophy at the ZRC SAZU (Scientific and Research Center of the Slovenian > Academy of Science and Art) in Ljubljana. She also works as a freelance > media theorist, art critic and curator. Marina Grzinic has been involved > with video art since 1982. In collaboration with Aina _mid she has produced > more than 30 video art projects, a short film, numerous video and media > installations, Internet websites and an interactive CD-ROM (ZKM, > Karlsruhe, Germany). Marina Grzinic has published hundreds of articles and > essays and 5 books, including the text Grzinic, "Exposure Time, the Aura, > and Telerobotics" in The Robot in the Garden: Telerobotics and > Telepistemology in the Age of the Internet, > ed. Ken Goldberg (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 2000) > Her last book is FICTION RECONSTRUCTED EASTERN EUROPE, POST-SOCIALISM and > THE RETRO-AVANT-GARDE (Vienna: Edition SELENE in collaboration with > Springerin, Vienna, 2000; www.amazon.de). > > AXIS OF LIFE (Grzinic/ Smid) > http://www.lois.kud-fp.si/quantum.east > NET.ART.ARCHIVE (Grzinic/ Smid) > http://www.zrc-sazu.si/net.art.archive > Grzinic on Mars through Reiche/Oldenburg > http://www.mars-patent.org > > > Nat Muller (B) <Nathalie.Muller@skynet.be> > is contributing editor of _Fringecore_ magazine (http://www.fringecore.com), > a sex educator, and a bookshopkeeper (http://www.belgonet.be/verschil). She > is currently living in Antwerp, where she is planning her escape into the > next millennium. > http://users.skynet.be/nattyweb > > > Pam Skelton (GB) <PamSkelton@compuserve.com> > is an artist and senior lecturer at Central Saint Martins College of Art & > Design. Her work in video and installation have principally involved > investigations which explore existing traces of history as evidence of > ruptures and dislocations which occur between site, memory and event. > > > Rachel Baker (GB) <rachel@irational.org> > Currently embarking on a residency at HTBA http://www.timebase.org > Rachel Baker hopes to implement in an independent media distribution > network facility in Hull. The exploitation of the workplace is an ongoing > project. > <http://www.irational.org/tm/art_of_work/> As part of Cultural Terrorist > Agency <http://www.irational.org/cta> she is responsible for strategies in > raising funds for projects that promote cultural interference. The most > recent CTA project to be unleashed was GirM , a brand of genetically > modified goods placed discreetly on supermarket shelves. Rachel Baker is > also a keen advocate of audio networks > and has published a d.i.y net.radio guide > http://www.irational.org/radio/radio_guide/ > and directory http://www.tmselector.net Full CV at www.irational.org/rachel. > > > Rena Tangens (D) <rena@bionic.zerberus.de> > artist, lives and works in Bielefeld, Germany. Worked with experimental > film, video and free radio. Founded the gallery and art project "Art > d'Ameuble-ment" together with padeluun. She brought the first modem to > documenta (d8!) and women into the Chaos Com-puter Club. She was artist in > residence in Canada. Rena Tangens is cofounder of FoeBuD e.V. and the BIONIC > bbs and curator of the monthly culture & technology event PUBLIC DOMAIN > since 1987. Published with FoeBuD the first manual on PGP encryption in > German language. She does research on androcentrism and life in the > networks, lectures and consulting for companies and institutions as well as > the Enquete-Kommission of the German Bundestag. Rena Tangens www.tangens.de > , PUBLIC DOMAIN -- topics, documentation and info on coming events: > www.foebud.org ZaMir network documentation: > www.foebud.org/texte/presse/artikel > Information on /CL network: www.cl-netz.de > Information on ZERBERUS and CHARON software: www.zerberus.com > Pretty Good Privacy: www.foebud.org/texte/publish/pgp.html > Text on androcentrism in the networks: > www.foebud.org/art/TEXTE/andororo.html > Wiwiwi-nangnangnang: www.foebud.org/art/wiwiwi.html > > > Rasa Smite (LV) <rasa@parks.lv> > famous net.audio activist from Riga, Latvia. > http://ozone.re-lab.net (net.radio ozone) > http://xchange.re-lab.net (net.audio network) > > > Stephanie Wehner (NL) < _@r4k.net> > playing with computers since the age of 16. experienced in irc. mostly > worked with freebsd, linux, sunos/solaris and bsdi. sys admin, programmer. > Currently working for ITSX. > http://www.xs4all.nl > http://www.r4k.net > http://www.itsx.com > > > Susanne Ackers, D <susanne@ackers.de>, founding member of OBN, art historian > living and working in the present in Berlin and Karlsruhe. > > > Ulrike Bergermann (D) <bergerma@uni-paderborn.de> > Working in the media studies department at the University of Paderborn, > Germany, I am also busy in the women's cultural center of Bremen, and living > in Hamburg. My doctoral dissertation deals with discourses on writing and > images and with sign language notation. Will be working on genetics and > cybernetics soon. You'll find my publications on media and gender studies as > well as current projects, lectures, courses etc. here: > www.uni-paderborn.de/~bergerma. > See the HAND-lab based in Bremen, Germany, and its lectures, films, > exhibitions presented by women researchers, artists and activists: > www.thealit.dsn.de/hand/index.html > > > Ursula Biemann (CH) <biemann@access.ch> > artist and former curator at Shedhalle Zurich, focuses on gender and > post-colonial issues in collective projects and videos located in the urban > sphere (Istanbul/ Mexico). > http://www.iniva.org/celluloid/biemann.html > http://www.lumpen.com --> [Lumpen Vision] > > > Vali Djordjevic (D) <valid@sero.org> > lives and works in Berlin. Originally she studied comparative literature > before becoming a member of the Internationale Stadt Berlin, one of the > first net culture projects in Germany, 1996. She worked with Old Boys > Network 1997 and co-organized the first Cyberfeminist International at the > documenta X in Kassel. Now she is a member of mikro e.V. > <http://www.mikro.org>, a Berlin based association examining the different > facets of media culture, and list administrator for the FACES mailing list > <http://faces.vis-med.ac.at>. She works in different contexts - from writing > and lectures to organizing events and setting up of computer networks - on > the topics of gender, networking, information and art. > > > Verena Kuni (D) <verena@kuni.org> > art historian and media theorist, since 1996 assistant at the dept. for art > theory at Johannes Gutenberg-university Mainz, Fb. 24/fine arts. Besides > working as free lance curator, author and critic for art magazines (i. a. > neue bildende kunst/Berlin, Kunst-Bulletin/ Zurich, Frieze/London, Camera > Austria/Vienna). Research, teaching, lectures and writings in the field of > contemporary arts, especially on the (public) image of the artist, old and > new mythologies in art history, the history and aesthetics of electronic > media and gender related issues. Member of old boys network. > http://www.kunst.uni-mainz.de/~kuni/welcome.htm > > > Victoria Vesna is an artist, professor and Chair of the Department of Design > | Media Arts at the UCLA School of the Arts. Vesna's work can be defined as > experimental research that connects networked environments to physical > public spaces. She explores how communication technologies effect collective > behavior, and shift perceptions of identity in relation to scientific > innovation. Vesna is currently building a 'community of people with no time' > and is exploring the performative aspects of cellular telephones in public > spaces. In 2000 she completed her Ph.D. at CAiiA, University of Wales, > entitled "Networked Public Spaces: An Investigation into Virtual > Embodiement". http://vv.arts.ucla.edu > > > Yvonne Volkart (CH) <yvolkart@access.ch> > is curator, art critic, writer and lecturer of German and New Media at the > Hochschule of Art and Design in Zurich. She lectures at several European art > schools and universities (such as University of Applied Arts, Vienna, > University of Zurich, Dep. Art History). She planned and organized several > conferences, and was one of the coorganizers of »Next Cyberfeminist > International«, Rotterdam, March 1999. In spring 2000 she curated the show > »Tenacity. Cultural Practices in the Age of Bio- and > Informationtechnologies«, New York/Zurich, March/July 2000 > (http://www.thing.net/~tenacity). 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