Sholto Ramsay on Sun, 28 Sep 1997 00:22:34 +0200 (MET DST) |
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<nettime> Re: The User is the Content - success |
I find John's critique of "success" problematic in so far as he seems to march in another direction and excoriate entertainment media as wholly unsucessful with a grammar equally befitting a torture chamber. the role and all permeating quality of US media is not in doubt, but the impact cannot be denounced as clearly as he states. terry eagleton, after he escaped from formalism warned against determinism. John Horvarth's argument with its dire predictions seems highly determined in so far as it positions US mass entertainment as a (the) cause of chronic social ills. Do the many US families beneath the poverty line suffer from apathy caused by mass entertainment, do they even own the TVs? Doesn't mass media set off and represent the vertiginous, uncontrollable experience of capitalism perfectly. > >> [I had] failed to comprehend was the irony of it all [about the > success of the US entertainment media] > >I had not failed to note the irony; what I was questioning is what you >regard by the term "success", which is one reason I gave a reference to >Jeremy Seabrook's article (and which is one reason why John Perry Barlow >thinks I'm complaining). In it he (Seabrook) argues that American media >is not a success; it is an illusion that makes people act against their >own interest. Yes, for the producers of this entertainment media, as >well as those oiling the wheels of this machine, it might appear to be a >success. But to those who have this entertainment media shoved down >their throat, it's not. The values and images it creates makes people >insecure, for they can never attain the levels of prosperity or glamour >that they see before them. Furthermore, others become addicted to it >like a drug in such a way that crime (because of the consumption >element), political apathy, and social irresponsibility is the result. > sholto Ramsay Head of Video and New Media Institute of Contemporary Arts 12 carlton house terrace. london sw1 5ah uk 44 171 930 0493 fax 44 171 873 0051 mailto:video@icarts.demon.co.uk http://www.ica.org.uk --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@icf.de and "info nettime" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner@icf.de