Re: <nettime> Fwd: Re: Shoshana Zuboff > The Secrets of Surveillance

[morlockelloi@yahoo.com]

The question is, does it matter at all?

The degree of mind-engagement is irrelevant if not properly coupled with 
feet-engagement.

In other words, whatever you do with your fingers touching plastic 
surfaces and your eyes scanning electronic screens, your brain 
constructing fantastic models of could-be worlds, regurgitating those 
worlds with other plastic-touchers, may be a totally irrelevant 
honey-trap, if it does not result in your feet taking you somewhere and 
eventually confronting men with guns. And it does not appear to result 
in that at all.

While it may be hard to accept, no one in position of control gives a 
flying fuck about these ideas - that's why you can do these idea 
exercises ad nauseam and publish all you want. The feet coupling is 
lost. The only way to regain such coupling may be a forced abstaining 
from plastic-touching.

> At the same time, there is a whole generation of people experimenting
> with new social values and forms of being together, centering
> arounf networked collaboration and complex systems thinking,
> all-based on digital technology but extending from experimentation

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