Ed Phillips on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:00:37 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Facebook's perfec spam laboratory. |
Felix, I find myself heartened to see your thoughts in my inbox, and that has been the case for me for many years. But perhaps that is because I "friended" you on nettime many years ago. And because I have developed a respect for your capacities and your efforts, I actually do bother to try to make sense of what your write and I try to get at the more elusive truth of what you think and the still more elusive truth of "what is actually going on" through the lens of what you think. I'm not on Facebook in any real or active form, so I can't tell you my impression. Perhaps Keith or Ted, those who do use it, can. I can say that I see something in your second paragraph that gives me pause. I want to take issue with how that paragraph turns on "turning". Simply, does social media (i.e. Facebook) turn people into avid self-promoters and greedy quantitative collectors of friends? Does it reduce people to only glad handing and appearance management? Or does it draw out and consolidate what many people want from both the social and from media? I could have fallen asleep at my Unix terminal fifteen years ago and not have missed a whit if Facebook has merely turned the naive into self promoters and image managers. Even more detrimental than a society of self promoters and most pernicious to my mind is the sense that anyone is determined by these media. It is us who fail the media, or we get the media we deserve. Or maybe we get the "experience" of media that we deserve. One way to constructively look at actually existing social media is as a petri dish for the "consolidation of error" as old William Blake used the phrase. It is that much easier for us to talk about the way a primitive group devolves into friend collecting and spam wars, and it looks even more comic and silly now than such trends looked on Usenet. And as they try to quantify and monetize, to give a price tag to social capital, they consolidate error ever more distinctly and more farcically. But today's social media is also many people's first homesteading in the noosphere and such conversations and uses as they are capable of are available to them. I imagine that new capacities for conversation are being born in individuals every day. And I also imagine that a gorging on the use of media for self aggrandizement and narcissistic satisfaction might even be salutary for those who grow weary of it. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:05:16PM +0100, Felix Stalder wrote: > I must admit, I'm thinking about joining Facebook. It's such a > giant social experiment. The main direction seems to be to totally > obliterate the difference between advertisement and virtually all > other forms of speech. <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org