Re: <nettime> Are we in 1935 Germany or 21st Century Netherlands?

[Heiko Recktenwald <heikorecktenwald@googlemail.com>]

Well, the main difference seems to be that people were insulted etc less 
by a climate of hate or by opinions, but by the state and its law. You 
were not allowed to marry etc. And later people were actually killed. 
Again not by citizens, but by an industry run by the state. This is 
completely different, the Holocaust is different anyway.....

In the Netherlands we have not more than a slight change in attitude, 
hardly noticable, more on a philosophical level, and IMHO that Wilders 
is not in prison now is a very good sign because such things must be 
discussed in a free athmosphere. A free society needs such discussions 
as well.

The  big example for the success of openness is England and the Dutch 
were very similar. The Romans come to mind as well. But I dont know the 
arguments of Wilders..


Best, H.


Am 27.06.2011 19:29, schrieb Dr. Peter Troxler:
> hm -- main difference to me seems to be today's focus on individualism while AH-193x was removing the individual for the sake of the party/nation/state
>
> any comments on that?
>
> / pt





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