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[digested @ nettime -- mod (tb)] "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen@gmail.com> URL for Tintin In Bengal French Embassy says Bangladeshi concerns are "objectionable & insulting" Arundhati Roy on Taslima Nasreen Lala Rukh Selim on Musee Guimet Musee Guimet & The Candy Man Asterix & The Big Fight (Musee Guimet cont.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:29:09 +0600 From: "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen@gmail.com> Subject: URL for Tintin In Bengal The Tintin in Bengal writeup is now online, with added reference URLs at end. Tintin in Bengal, or Musee Guimet Controversy http://www.drishtipat.org/blog/2007/12/01/tintin-bengal/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 00:44:21 +0600 From: "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen@gmail.com> Subject: French Embassy says Bangladeshi concerns are "objectionable & insulting" http://www.drishtipat.org/blog/2007/12/01/tintin-bengal/ The following references have been added to the Guimet blog entry: 1. Fact-Finding Committee Report: Pg 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 2. Protesters Battle Police As Musee Guimet Trucks Roll Out 3. Shahidul Alam: Price of Priceless Objects 4. Shahidul Alam: Missing Jigsaw Pieces 5. Letter To The French Government & Citizens 6. Anisur Rahman: Collected Media Reports 7. French Embassy:Bangladeshi Protesters are "Misleading the public again!" 8. French Ambassador: Protesters concerns are "objectionable and insulting" 9. Kwame Opoku: Musee Guimet holds "thousands of stolen objects" 10. Afrikanet: France & The Stolen Art Of Others 11. Major Robberies At French Museums 12. Louvre refuses Turkish demand for Ottoman Tiles 13. Declaration on the Importance and Value of Universal Museums 14. "Complete" documentation as per French Embassy, with missing Accession Numbers: 1, 2 15. Contract Between Culture Ministry & French Ambassador - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:54:42 +0600 From: "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen@gmail.com> Subject: Arundhati Roy on Taslima Nasreen [From Shuddha/Sarai] Transcript of Arundhati Roy interviewed on the treatment of Taslima Nasreen by Karan Thapar on 'Devil's Advocate', broadcast this evening on CNN-IBN The transcript was published on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 20:32, on the CNN IBN website http://www.ibnlive.com/news/if-treated-like-taslima-id-give-up-writing/5346= 4-3-single.html To watch the video of the interview - see - http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/53464/12_2007/devils_arundathi1/if-treated-li= ke-taslima-id-give-up-writing.html --------------------------------------------- Hello and welcome to Devil's Advocate. How do India's leading authors respond to the treatment given to Taslima Nasreen over the last 14 days? That's the key issue I shall explore today with Booker Prize- winning novelist Arundhati Roy. Karan Thapar: Arundhati Roy, let me start with that question. How do you respond to the way Taslima Nasreen has been treated for almost 14 days now? Arundhati Roy: Well, it is actually almost 14 years but right now it is only 14 days and I respond with dismay but not surprise because I see it as a part of a larger script where everybody is saying their lines and exchanging parts. Karan Thapar: She, I believe, has been in touch with you . What has she told you about the experience that she has been through? Arundhati Roy:Well I have to say that I was devastated listening to what she said because here's this woman in exile and all alone. Since August she's been under pressure, she says, from the West Bengal police who visit her everyday saying, "Get out of here. Go to Kerala, go to Europe or go to Rajasthan. Do anything but get out of here. People are trying to kill you," not offering to protect her but saying get out. On 15th November when there was this huge march in Calcutta against Nandigram, they said, "Now you're going to be killed so we're going to move you from your flat to some other place" and they did it but they withdrew most of her security which is paradoxical because on the day when she was supposedly the most under the threat, she had no protection. A few days later they gave her a ticket and pushed her out of the state. Karan Thapar: Listening to the story she told you about herself, do you believe that the West Bengal government's behaviour has been unacceptable? Arundhati Roy: Well it has been utterly, ridiculously unacceptable. I mean, what can I say? Here you have a situation where you're really threatening and coercing a person. Karan Thapar: Far from protecting her, they were threatening her? Arundhati Roy: Absolutely. Karan Thapar: What about Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee? He is a poet, he is an author; how does he emerge from this story? Arundhati Roy: He emerges from the story, as far as I am concerned, as the principal scriptwriter who managed quite cleverly to shift all the attention from Nandigram to Taslima and Taslima is not the person who is displacing the poor peasants of Nandigram. She is not the person who is robbing people of their daily. Karan Thapar: So he used her as a pawn to take the pressure off himself in terms of Nandigram? Arundhati Roy: I think very successfully because we are discussing her and not Nandigram right now. Karan Thapar: So he's failed to stand by any of the constitutional duties that as a Chief Minister he should have upheld? Arundhati Roy: I should say at this point that we do not have the constitutional right to free speech. We have many caveats between us and free speech so maybe he has upheld the constitutional rights to us not having free speech. Karan Thapar: On Friday, Taslima announced that three pages from her autobiography Dwikhandito, which allegedly had given offence to critics, are to be withdrawn. Do you see that as a sensible compromise or a mistake? Arundhati Roy: Well, neither. She does not have any choices. She is just like a person who has now got the protection of the mafia which is the state in some way. She has nowhere to go. She has no protection. She just has to blunder her way through this kind of humiliation and I really feel for her. Karan Thapar: You used an interesting phrase. You said she has to blunder her way through this humiliation. Was withdrawing those three pages, admittedly under pressure, a blunder? Arundhati Roy: I don't know. Honestly, we can all be very brave in the security of our lives but she has nobody to turn to and nowhere to go. I don't know what I would have done in that situation. Karan Thapar: She had no other choice, perhaps. Arundhati Roy:She really is in a mess. I think it is a reflection on all of us. Karan Thapar: Let's come to the issues and the principle that underlie what I call the Taslima Nasreen story. To begin with, do you view freedom of speech as an absolute freedom, without any limitations or would you accept that there are certain specific constraints that we all have to accept? Arundhati Roy: It is a complicated question and has been debated often. I personally, do view it as something that should have no caveats for this simple reason that in a place where there are so many contending beliefs, so many conflicting things, only the powerful will then decide what those caveats should be and those caveats will always be used by the powerful. Karan Thapar: So you're saying that given the fact that many people are vulnerable, freedom of speech for them should have no caveats, it should be absolute and that's their only protection? Arundhati Roy: I think so because if you look at the facts, you have outfits like VHP or the Bajrang Dal or the CD that the BJP produced during the UP elections, you see that they do what they want to do. The powerful always do what they want to do. It is the powerless and the vulnerable that need free speech. Karan Thapar: Let's explore the position that you're taking =96 free speech is an absolute freedom and there should be no limitations on it. What about the view that by criticising Islam, Taslima has offended beliefs which for tens of millions of Indians, maybe for hundreds of millions are sacred? These are beliefs that underlie their dignity and their sense of identity. Should freedom of speech extend that far as to threaten people's sense of themselves? Arundhati Roy: I don't believe that a write like Taslima Nasreen can undermine the dignity of ten million people. Who is she? She is not a scholar of Islam. She does not even claim that Islam is her subject. She might have said extremely stupid things about Islam. I have no problem with the quotations that I have heard from her book. Dwikhandito has not been translated into English but let's just assume that what she said was stupid and insulting to Islam but you have to be prepared to be insulted by something that insignificant. Karan Thapar: Let me quote to you some of the things that she said, not from Dwikhandito, but from an interview she gave to Anthony McIntyre, The Blanket in 2006. She says, "It's not true that Islam is good for humanity. It's not at all good. Islam completely denies human rights." Elsewhere she talks about what she calls the venomous snake of Islam. To me that sounds as if it goes perhaps beyond a simple critique and into deliberate provocation. Arundhati Roy: It sounds like Donald Rumsfeld or some Christian fundamentalist. Karan Thapar: And you would rile at him so why not rile at her? Arundhati Roy: Yeah, but I wouldn't say ban him or kill him. I would say what a ridiculous person. What a ridiculous thing. How can you start reacting to everything like that? We have an infinite number of stupidities in the world. How can you start having your foundations rocked by every half-wit? Karan Thapar: Let's put it like this, does freedom of speech necessarily include the right to offend? Arundhati Roy: Obviously it includes the right to offend otherwise it wouldn't be the freedom of speech. Karan Thapar: But is that an acceptable right in India? Arundhati Roy: One person's offence is another person's freedom. Karan Thapar: That maybe so in England and America where Western levels of education have allowed people to hear something offensive without reacting violently. In India, where the education levels are so disparate, where religion is so emotionally and passionately held, then if you have the freedom of speech merging into the right to offend, you end up provoking people often to violence, sometimes to death. Arundhati Roy: First of all, I think we have to understand that education is a very loaded term because modernity is what is creating some of this kind of radical fundamentalism. And it's not like traditional India anymore. In fact, if you look at any studies that have been done, actually communal riots have increased. Karan Thapar: Aren't you evading my point? You're questioning what is meant by modernity and education but you and I know that the levels of sophistication in terms of being able to handle offence to your religion or criticism of your God vary hugely. Arundhati Roy: What I am saying is that level of sophistication is far better in rural areas than urban areas. Karan Thapar: You mean that rural Indians are better able to take criticism of Ram or Allah? Arundhati Roy: If you look at the kind of riots in rural and urban areas, you'll see that, historically. Karan Thapar: Let me give you a specific example. If criticism of Islam by Taslima Nasreen leads to a situation where people come out and riot on the streets and there is a real genuine threat that innocent people could end up killed, what in that circumstance should be the government's priority =97 to defend freedom of speech or prevent the loss of human lives? Arundhati Roy: I don't think that's a choice. I think they have to protect freedom of speech and do everything that they can to prevent the loss of human life because here what is happening is that this kind of right to offend or 'my sentiments have been hurt' have become a business in democratic politics. Let's say the political parties are engineering these situations which lead to a loss of life otherwise why should it be that Dwikhandito has been on the bestseller list for four years in West Bengal and nothing has happened and suddenly when there's a massive march and a massive mobilisation against the CPM, the book suddenly reappears as insulting people's faith? Karan Thapar: So you're saying mischief makers, manipulators whipped up sentiments four or five years after the book was published, to deliberately try and corner Taslima and to create an atmosphere that perhaps worked in some peculiar way to the advantage of the West Bengal government? Arundhati Roy: Look at who's benefiting from it. All the anger about Nandigram has now suddenly turned to us asking the same state that criminally killed people in Nandigram to now protect Taslima Nasreen. Karan Thapar: Are you trying to suggest that perhaps that the West Bengal government was in some way involved in engineering this incident to deflect attention from Nandigram to Taslima? Arundhati Roy: I would say that it would have had a lot to do with it and I am saying that it is so easy to do these things. Karan Thapar: When the situation happened, it would have perhaps been judged as Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee's dilemma. Perhaps as a poet and author he felt a need to defend or desire to protect the freedom of speech. As a Chief Minister, undoubtedly he knew that he had the duty to stop and prevent the loss of human life. If therefore, by putting pressure on Taslima Nasreen to leave the state for a while, he was able to save ten or fifteen lives that would have otherwise been lost on the streets of Calcutta, did he not do the right thing? Arundhati Roy: No, I don't think so. I think that's the game that they would like us to play. 'I did it in order to defend innocent lives.' But I think there's a deeper script in the understanding of what is known as the deep state. I think that this was a provocation that actually could have ended up creating a loss of lives because, I want to go back to it, why should it be that for four years that book was on the market and no lives were lost. Everything is in the timing. Karan Thapar: So you really do believe, when you use phrases like the deep state that there was a conspiracy, even though we don't fully understand it, to deflect attention from Nandigram to Taslima and to perhaps put her in a position where under pressure she was forced to leave and the government didn't actually have to physically throw her out? Arundhati Roy: I wouldn't use the word conspiracy because that sounds like an intelligence operation and I don't think that something like this needs to go as far as a conspiracy but I would certainly say that you need to examine the timing of this because that's all we are ever left in India. No one ever gets to the bottom of anything. It is always like, who benefits, why did this happen now. I would like to know, why it happened now. Karan Thapar: So you're saying something that's pretty fundamental. You're saying that far more simple =97as you did at the beginning=97 that the West Bengal government behaved unacceptably. Now you're saying that there was almost Machiavellian intent, not a conspiracy but a Machiavellian intent behind the way they have played this game out? Arundhati Roy: You are making it sound like I have a very deep insight. Karan Thapar: No, you have a deep distrust and a huge suspicion. Arundhati Roy: That's true but I also know that this is the word on the street. You don't need a rocket scientist to figure this out. It is something that we have seen happening over and over again. It is nothing new or amazing that's happening. Karan Thapar: Let's turn to the Central Government's response to Taslima Nasreen. Speaking in parliament on Wednesday, Pranab Mukherjee said that India would continue extend protection and sanctuary to Taslima Nasreen and then he added that it is also expected that guests will refrain from activities and expressions that may hurt the sentiments of our people. How do you respond to that? Arundhati Roy: It is like being sentenced to good behaviour for the rest of your life which is a death sentence for a writer. If I had to live somewhere in those conditions, I would become a yoga instructor or something. I would give up writing because this is such a nasty thing to do. Here is a woman who is a Bengali writer. She can't function outside. It's a question of principle anyway. It is not about her, it is about us. What kind of society are we creating? Sure it's tough to take the kind of things she said about Islam but she should be put in her place, intellectually and otherwise. Not like this where she will become a martyr to somebody else. Karan Thapar: When Pranab Mukherjee says that it is expected that guests will refrain from activities and expressions that may hurt the sentiments of our people, is he in a very real sense giving Muslim fundamentalists a veto, both over what Taslima can write and say and therefore whether she can stay in Calcutta? Arundhati Roy:Who does he mean when he says 'our people'? Am I included for example? Because by saying this he certainly hurt my sentiments. You can't really match people's sentiments. Karan Thapar: You are quite right. 'Our people' includes the whole range of people but I suspect that when he says our people he had those who we were protesting against Taslima on the streets of Calcutta in mind. Has he, therefore, given them a veto over what she can write and say, and therefore a veto over whether she can continue to live in Calcutta? Arundhati Roy:It is not her. He has taken a veto over all of us. I mean I have also been told by the Supreme Court that you will behave yourself and you will write how we ask you to write. I will not. I hope that is extended to everybody here. Karan Thapar: Given that Taslima's case is not a unique case, you've suffered as you said at the hands of the Supreme Court, M F Hussain has suffered, art students in Baroda have suffered, even people doing cartoons and satires of Gandhi on YouTube have suffered, are we an intolerant people= ? Arundhati Roy: We're just messy people. Either we have the principle of free speech or you have caveats that will fill up this whole room and we will all just be silenced. There will be no art, there will be no music and there will be no cinema. Karan Thapar: Are you moving in that direction where caveats to free speech are becoming so many that there is no freedom to be artistic? Arundhati Roy: What I am saying here does not matter. I might believe in this but I know that tomorrow I have to deal with the thugs of the government, courts of the fundamentalist and everybody else. In order to live here you have to think that you are living in the midst of a gang war. So what I believe in or don't believe in is only theoretical. However, how I practice is a separate matter. How I survive here is like surviving amongst thugs. Karan Thapar: But then the corollary to what you're saying is very important. You're saying that artists, particularly those who see things differently, particularly those who are stretching out and wanting to be new and avant-garde, have to contend with the thugs, as you call them, with the government and the majority that's trying to push them back. Arundhati Roy: We do and we will. The thing is that I also don't expect to be mollycoddled. I know that we have a fight on our hands and how do we survive in this gang war. The state is just another gang, as far as I am concerned. Karan Thapar: So you're saying that it is not easy to be different in India? Arundhati Roy:Well, it's challenging and we accept that challenge. Karan Thapar: What's your advice to Taslima Nasreen? Arundhati Roy: I really don't have any advice. I feel very bad for her because, let me say this, her's is actually the tragedy of displacement. Once, she has been displaced from her home. She has no rights. She is a guest and she is being treated very badly. She is being humiliated. Karan Thapar: Arundhati Roy, it was a pleasure talking to you on Devil's Advocate. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:46:24 +0600 From: "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen@gmail.com> Subject: Lala Rukh Selim on Musee Guimet Link to this op-ed is at: http://www.drishtipat.org/blog/2007/12/01/tintin-bengal/ Why risk invaluable heritage for vague 'cultural benefits'? By Lala Rukh Selim Dated 29.11.2007 In response to the French, Embassy's reply entitled "Int'l show will bring cultural benefits to Bangladesh" (published in The Daily Star of 27 November 2007) to the statement of four citizens, we would again take this opportunity to voice our confusion as to what exactly are the 'cultural benefits' that are being alluded to? We as Bangladeshis are very secure of the cultural heritage that we have. We are proud of it as it reflects a past of assimilation, integration and syncretism. Any person in the world may learn of our culture spanning thousands of years from many sources and are always welcome to visit our land to study our culture. Why should an exhibition in France benefit Bangladesh, especially an exhibition where the priceless treasures of our country have been selected without involving Bangladeshi experts, where the cataloguing is inaccurate and unprofessional, where the insurance is laughable? Such an exhibition may benefit the French, but how it will benefit Bangladesh is not conceivable. We may have been able to consider the tangible benefits if the French government had agreed to send Bangladesh an exchange exhibition of its own priceless treasures. As there is no mention of any such exchange exhibition, the vague 'benefits' only succeeds in baffling us. It makes us very curious as to why the French Government is so keen on the exhibition when we have learnt from reliable sources that the Expert Committee constituted by the Ministry of Cultural Affairs of Bangladesh has noted various points of serious concern regarding it. This has made the exhibition considerably controversial and much debated. Firstly, the citizens of Bangladesh were completely in the dark while the French and Bangladeshi governments were planning, organizing and implementing various stages of activities relating to the exhibition for nearly past four years. The people whose patrimony is to be transported to a foreign country were not informed of this impending fact. There was no media coverage, which would ensure the transparency of an event of such immense cultural magnitude. Would the Monalisa leave the Louvre without the people of France knowing of it? Gradually, with constant prodding and litigation from citizens from various levels of society it came to light that there are gaping holes in the contract that has been signed between the two nations. Perhaps most horrifying and barbaric is the fact that even the exact number of artifacts packed to leave for France is unknown while some pieces lack identification, they do not have the counter signature of the concerned authorities or a listing of the museum accession numbers in the contract. The visual documentation is faulty and incomplete. The identification and documentation of the objects are obscure, inadequate and, in some cases, absent. The list of items have been wavering between 168 to 189 which may have been acceptable for a consignment of eggs or apples (though that too is questionable!) but for a priceless collection of artifacts this is unheard of. For example, the total number of coins is stated, but no details supplied as to their dating, material and description. The two invaluable Pala palm leaf manuscripts which are awaiting transport are so fragile that the number of pages cannot be counted. In view of the enormous value of these items, it looks like sheer lunacy to subject them to travel. Let it suffice to say that even a single sheet is enough to represent the refined achievement of that period. More horrors were revealed when it came to be known that the Musee Guimet was given permission to restore the artifacts prior to the exhibition in the Guimet laboratory. These artifacts were mostly taken from display cases so the need for restoration does not seem to be relevant and the ones that need restoration should not travel at all. It is learnt that the Expert Committee is of the opinion that they should not be allowed to be restored after they leave the territory of Bangladesh because the contract is flawed by bad documentation and a very low insurance value. Who will know if pages of the Prajnaparamita manuscript or a Maurya coin is missing if we do not know what and how many is going in the first place? What if some of them are missing when and if they are returned? What if they are damaged in transport or the transport destroyed? The "what ifs" are cause for deep anxiety for all concerned citizens of Bangladesh. What is also causing more dismay is the rather paternal and colonial psyche expressed by the French when they repeatedly remind Bangladeshis about the 'cultural benefits' to Bangladesh. Are the Bangladeshis less able to understand and judge what is good for themselves than the French? Do we need the patronizing attitude of the French who pretend to know better what is good for us? Bangladesh has a glowing history. It has not colonized any nation. Imperialism is not part of its past. It has always assimilated and embraced the cultural influences that have entered from the outside world. It has only resorted to violence when faced with oppression and exploitation. It has stood up against the colonial power of the British, the Language Movement took place when its culture was challenged and the Liberation War against Pakistan was again a fight against oppression and colonialism. If anything, Bangladesh has a wonderful cultural image, which can in no way be bettered by any exhibition anywhere in the world. If the French government is bent on wresting our heritage from us by sheer force, let it be known that it will prove once more that history repeats itself and morals and ethics, law and justice plays into the hands of those who possess power. The French government is going against all codes of ethical conduct when they disregard our opinions and the laws of our land. We, the people of Bangladesh protest and will protest against this outrage and misuse of power. We want proper documentation, we want the due involvement of the professionals of our country and we want the just insurance value of our artifacts. Let it also be clear that the artifacts in question are the creation of the cumulative genius of our ancestors, creations inspired by the spirit and soul of our people, not the whim of nature, as are the mineral or natural resources of our country. We, the people of Bangladesh, demand respect and justice for our cultural heritage and we will not rest or hold our peace in the face of force. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 00:42:46 +0600 From: "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen@gmail.com> Subject: Musee Guimet & The Candy Man Shahidul Alam's report on today's Bangladesh government press conference to address Musee Guimet controversy is below and also linked here: http://www.drishtipat.org/blog/2007/12/01/tintin-bengal/ Also, courtesy of Shahidul, I have updated the documentation examples Lack of documentation a) set of coins catalogued as "coins", with no specifics b) inconsistent numbers ("50 silver coins, and 8 gold coins" at Dec 3 Bangladesh government press conference, "50 punchmarked coins" in one set of court records, "gold and silver coins" in another record, "93 punch marked coins" in the French inventory) b) missing accession numbers (no accession number for large and extremely rare bronze statue the Vajrasattva, insured at 200,000 Euro) c) mismatch between number of pieces documented by the French photographer who catalogued the show, the number given in French embassy contract, and the number in Embassy's press release d) incomplete descriptions, missing descriptions e) insurance value of 4 million Euros, for a collection that dates back to 4th century BC. An international archaeological expert has since called this appraisal "financial fraud". f) insurance value of 4 million Euro as per French press release of 25th September, 2.6 million Euro as per Dec 3 Bangladesh government press conference g) no response to protesters demand for name of artefact packer ##################### The Candy Man Shahidul Alam He was charming, witty, and took blame upon himself. Adviser Ayub Quadri, was the Minister of Education, Minister of Primary and Mass Education and Minister of Cultural Affairs, Government of the People's Republic of Bangladesh. He was the perfect guy to rely upon for damage control. The public school background showed, as did the many years as a top bureaucrat. He had been a member of the elite Civil Service of Pakistan (CSP). An old boys network that still holds clout in the subcontinent. The Press Information Department (PID) auditorium on the 3rd floor of Building 9, in the Bangladesh Secretariat was packed. Unlike many other Bangladeshi events it started on time. Squeezing through the footpaths, crossing fences, lifting my bicycle over rickshaws stuck in traffic, I had panted my way to the secretariat. The police at gate 2 had been too perplexed by a bicycle going through the gate to even stop me for papers. I arrived just as the first question was raised. It was a packed hall, and while I thought I would stay at the back, I realised that I needed to get up there to stand any chance of getting a question in. I sat on the floor in between the video tripods. The journalists had done their homework. And while there were a few questions that were repetitive, by and large, they knew what they wanted. In response to a question about the alleged corruption charges against one of the government officials involved in the transaction, the adviser joked. "Well I am the person in overall charge. The police don't seem to be after me for corruption." Pretty answer. Pity it didn't answer the question. The large table with the adviser in the middle was imposing. The Secretary of Culture on the left and another officer on the right played a largely ornamental role. So did the entire row of officials in the back. They did however lean forward to whisper in the adviser's ear from time to time. The question came up of the alleged transportation of the bronze casket in 1959 to France, which Mr. Zakaria, the ex Secretary of Culture had mentioned in a press conference on the 1st December. The adviser let the question slip, saying he'd heard of such accusations and was looking into it. A member of the back row broke ranks and retorted, "There is no such record." Mr. Zakaria, also an ex director of the department of archaeology, had mentioned a 49 year fight to get back this prized possession, without success. A journalist mentioned the case of the 30 paintings of Mohammad Younus. They had been sent to Yugoslavia, on a government to government exchange. None had ever come back. Quadri again said he didn't know. "Don't know" was quite a common response to questions. Candid perhaps, but not particularly useful. In answer to the questions about the irregularities regarding the loan inventory, the adviser did provide figures, but no documents he could back them up with. Questions from the floor pointed to the disjoint between the figures he quoted and the ones given in the government documents submitted to the court. That they didn't correspond to the inventory produced by the French themselves. He promised to provide updated documents this very evening. Tomorrow morning at the latest. Why the government had provided documents to the court which did not tally with the shipment, was a question that never got asked, and was certainly not clarified. Neither was the mystery regarding calling a press conference, but not having these documents at hand ever solved by the guests. "I have full confidence that the items will come back." He said, taking the weight of the world on his shoulders. As to why Bangladeshis should have confidence in him, was one that was never clarified. "The company that had packed the crates have been doing so for 300 years," he mentioned. The doubters have been asking for the packers to be named ever since the beginning, but have not been given an answer. Those who had thought the press conference would enlighten them were disappointed. Since only government members of the committee were present, there was no one to question the claim that everything had done to please the committee. That the committee had been fully satisfied with the proceedings. The fact that the official letter by the committee, in the hands of the press, said something entirely different was a mere technicality. The problem was the inconsistencies. We still don't know exactly how many items are being sent. Neither do we know exactly what is being sent. The few specifics the advisor provided, that there were "50 silver coins, and 8 gold coins," might have helped in purchasing supplies for an Everest expedition, but didn't help much in evaluating either the value, or the specifics of a museum item. Especially when the court record states "50 punchmarked coins" in one entry and an unspecified number of "gold and silver coins" in another. Assuming the number of silver coins in the latter entry is non-zero, and that the punchmarked coins are all silver, we still have a problem. The French inventory specifies "93 punch marked coins." Are the "gold and silver coins" non-punchmarked? Do they add up to the "8 gold coins" the adviser was referring to? 50 + non-zero number =3D 50 and 50 + 8 =3D 93 in Ayub Quadri's arithmetic. There are bigger issues. He generally accepted that the insurance value was low, but claimed that it was an academic issue in the case of priceless items. Especially since he was confident that they were all coming back. However the French press release, issued on the 25th September 2007, stated that the insurance value was 4 million euro. The adviser today clearly stated 2.6 million euro. So who are we to believe? We are after all talking of the most prized possessions of a nation. Consistent statements help remove doubt. The adviser's "confidence" might work on a poker table, but does little to put a worried population at ease. He brushed off the accusation about whisking off the items in a hurry, or that there was any question of impropriety or stealth in terms of going against court directives. When asked why such an important event, which was covered by all major independent media, was completely unreported on state television, he smiled. The gentleman on the right did speak up this time. He pointed out that the question was "irrelevant." Other questions remain. In the documents presented to the court by the government, even one of the most valued items, the large (and extremely rare) bronze statue the Vajrasattva does include an insurance value (not always the case) of 200,000 euro. The item does not have an accession number. Quadri was unruffled throughout, never losing cool. Always extremely pleasant. His only admission to some concern was in answer to a question about when the items would come back. He said in no uncertain terms, "April." He added, "Until then, I will stay worried, and looking at the mood in the room, I can tell that you too will not rest." As a child, we would watch the candy floss man take a tiny spoonful of sugar, a dollop of colouring and would watch with amazement as the machine spun out a pink web, which he would twirl around a stick. One portion was only dui poisha (two paisa). A figure which we could realistically save up. The large pink fluff, folded on contact, and melted in the mouth, but did give a sense of attainment. We called it hawai mithai, sweet made of air. This candy floss press conference too, had little substance but plenty of form. Whether the media kids will feel they got value for their dui poisha is something we'll see in tomorrow's headlines. =97=97=97 Previous governments have killed farmers when they demanded fertilisers and seeds. Villagers have been killed when they had the audacity to demand electricity, resist open pit mining. Yesterday 14 cyclone affected people were detained for trying to present a memorandum in protest of irregularities in relief efforts. We wonder what demands for saving our heritage will bring. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 03:27:56 +0600 From: "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen@gmail.com> Subject: Asterix & The Big Fight (Musee Guimet cont.) Apologies for inundating this list, the Guimet debate grows by hour. Most of the posts about Guimet have been from one side. Finally, an "Anonymous" supporter of the exhibition has written from the "other side": Astrerix & The Big Fight http://www.drishtipat.org/blog/2007/12/03/guimet-the-other-side/ [I responded to Anon in comment # 2] The original 'Tintin in Bengal' post has been updated with feedback/critique from bloggers, in these sections: 2. Precedent for Art Anxiety 3. Guimet as a Signifier 4. The Robbery Jitters http://www.drishtipat.org/blog/2007/12/01/tintin-bengal/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org