John von Seggern on Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:54:54 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> "China:Imitation Nation"-Salon |
As a DJ/musician who has lived in Hong Kong for most of the past seven years and worked frequently in China, in my experience it is also fair to say that the weakness of Chinese IP law has led to a situation in which it is virtually impossible for Chinese musicians/artists/writers to make a living from their work. Some musicians whose CDs are believed to sell in the millions of copies nationwide are still living penniless in Beijing because 95% of their sales are from pirate copies. Many bands in China break up after making one CD because it is economically impossible for them to continue making records. Some groups on the nascent Chinese dance music scene (such as the recently popular MP4) have used their popularity gained from pirate CD sales and downloads to increase the price they ask for live gigs, although I believe this has been difficult for many of the rock groups because of gov't restrictions on live performances. Although I generally support a less restrictive approach to IP, nonetheless the situation of artists in China should be a cautionary tale for those who think 'information wants to be free' means that we should forego any kind of copyright protection whatsoever. Also -- Confucian values aside, I have noticed that Westerners resident in HK/China inevitably begin buying and using pirated products themselves, even while 'knowing it is wrong' as suggested below. After all, everybody's doing it... John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael H Goldhaber" <mgoldh@well.com> To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: <nettime> "China:Imitation Nation"-Salon > The Salon article "China:Imitation Nation" by Lisa Movius, > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/07/08/imitation_nation/ [....] # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net