N Jett on Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:52:32 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> the language of tactical media (parecon) |
>On Tuesday 09 July 2002 1:53 am, "N Jett" wrote: > > Ah yes... Parecon... no longer shall we have surgeons and janitors, > > instead there is just the person who takes out your trash, and your > > appendix (and gets paid more for the trash because surgery is > > "glamorous"). > >This is a misreading of parecon. You wouldn't get paid more for the trash, >and glamour isn't a consideration. If it is then it is a misreading that Albert encourages. When I saw him speak he specifically said that the glamour of a job is a consideration in who gets assigned what tasks as part of their job complex. It is a factor in the balancing so that glamorous jobs are "fairly" distributed. Perhaps I and everyone I spoke with afterwards completely misunderstood him, but it seemed pretty clear at the time. > > > His "Balanced Job Complex" idea seems like a very unfunny > > joke to me. > >Scorn, on its own, is a very weak argument against anything. If you want >to >argue convincingly against balanced job complexes, you'll have to do better >than that. This was meant in the context of the rest of my statements (i.e. the comments regarding janitors and surgeons). It is a good point though, I haven't provided a strong argument against, but then I haven't seen a strong argument for (and I do admit I haven't looked very hard, I've only read one of Albert's books). Additionally, I've tended to be somewhat scornful of Parecon after seeing what a pompous ass Albert is, I know, don't judge the message by the messenger, but the guy came across as such an elitest jerk it's hard to dismiss. > > > The whole "committees to decide absolutely everything" > > concept > >This is a gross misrepresentation of parecon. Again, Albert specifically said this in public that the authority to make all economic decisions is vested in the Soviet... err... committees. > >If you have objections to parecon, and you are really interested in >thinking >through the issues involved, I suggest that you try reading Albert's and >Hahnel's replies to their critics on www.parecon.org; it may well be that >your objections are answered there. > >Ben > Thanks, I will definitely do that sometime in the near future. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net