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Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@razorfish.com> Re: FW: <nettime> Do not exhibit any longer in Austria! NowkNowN <NowkNowN@gmx.net> fpoe/oevp and the resistance against valery grancher <vgranger@imaginet.fr> (no subject) Maryandruskin@aol.com No Subject "Frank Hartmann" <frank.hartmann@chello.at> Come ski in Austria "Mihajlo Acimovic" <mihajlo5@angelfire.com> Austria, isolation and other ideas "<<bernhard>>" <bernhard@allquiet.org> Re: <nettime> Do not exhibit any longer in Austria! "M Grootveld" <rabotnik@xs4all.nl> Re: <nettime> Do not exhibit any longer in Austria! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@razorfish.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:25:57 -0500 Subject: Re: FW: <nettime> Do not exhibit any longer in Austria! This is exactly the opposite of what should be done. Nazis want all dissenting opinions to be suppressed, so why should we do it for them? What we should do is INCREASE activity as much as possible. Make your voice heard, especially if you are Austrian. Take it beyond the galleries and museums, take it to the streets. If there are groups harrasing Jews, we need to go out in public and harrass those groups. When we see Nazi graffiti, we need to write over it. And then boycott the organizations which support racism and anti-semitism. No such problem can be solved by running away. If you look at the people who brought about major change in their societies, they did it by standing up to the powers-that-be. Look at Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King; they did not back down or leave the country. They made their voices heard against violent opposition. To answer the question you posed: "would you have exhibited in Nazi-Germany?" I would say yes, I would have exhibited works that offended the Nazis. As an Austrian citizen in the U.S., I plan to move to Austria so that I can openly challenge racism and anti-semitism. -Hans >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nettime-l@bbs.thing.net >[<mailto:owner-nettime-l@bbs.thing.net]On Behalf Of Robert Fleck >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:46 AM >To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net >Subject: <nettime> Do not exhibit any longer in Austria! > > >Nantes, 2.2.2000 > >Dear friends, > >As you know, Austria got today the first federal government since the end >of World War Second with a big participation of nazis. [95 lines of orig deleted for digest--mod] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 18:53:05 +0100 From: NowkNowN <NowkNowN@gmx.net> Subject: fpoe/oevp and the resistance against rosa antifa wien - fpoe/oevp and the resistance against 1.2.2000 Last evening the conservative OEVP and far right FPOE have come to an final agreement about building together a new government in Austria. Now a government with participation of the FPOE is only a few days away anymore. The only step now missing is the formal confirmation of the federal president of Austria. Joerg Haider probably won't be part of the government (to reduce the protests of other countries) but he will still be the man in the background, telling the others where to go. And: Even a government without Haider will incorporate right-extremists, because his followers are nothing better than their leader. While the press-conference in which the agreement was presented to the public was still going on, some 500 persons gathered in front of the parliament (where the talks had taken place) to protest against the planned government. After then some 200 Persons marched through the city and blocked the traffic (which was not too succesfull as it allready was 1 a.m. when these protests took place). Meanwhile the occupation of the OEVP-Headquarter still goes on. At the moment (3 a.m.) there are still some 50 supporters in front of the building. The atmosphere is good although until now the occupation is being neglected totally by the austrian media. Even (and then still more) a government with a participation of the FPOE is in charge the inner and outher pressure must not be lowered! Against the normalization of right-extremists! Rosa Antifa Wien (RAW) ***** 3-Feb-2000 20 000 protest against far right FPOe in Vienna/Austria Only two days after the announcment of the manifestation, yesterday at 5 p.m some 20 000 persons gathered in front of the Headquarter of the conservative OEVP, to protest against the planned FPOE and OEVP-government. One day ago this building was occupied by 40 activists, which yesterday ended their occupation to join the demo. Although the OEVP announced to sue them afterwards, they weren't even controlled by the police. In spite of the 20 000 protestors outside a wise decision. Afterwards the protesters went on to the office of the federal president (who, at least in theory, would have the possibilitie to not allow the planned government). This was the, from the organizing human rights organizations, planned finishing-point of the manifestation. But this wasn't enough for some of the protestors, and so one group of them went on to the Headquarter of the FPOE, while another headed for the parliament. Later this two groups met again in the city and formed a group of 3000 protestors. The police had a lot of troubles to maintain traffic, which led to a lot of traffic jam. The protestors went on the FPOE-HQ again. This time the police tried to stop them, which led to a little fight. After protesting near to the FPOE for a while the march went on through the city. At 10 p.m. the group of still 1000-1500 protestors again arrived at the OEVP-HQ. The atmosphere was great, if not euphoric. And so they went on again and at 24:00 some 300 protestors arrived in front of the parliament, where the OEVP was meanwhile discussing the planned coalition. Through the evening a lot of car drivers showed their support for the manifestation, by joining the sound of protest with their cars horn. Also the general response of the pass-byers was quite good, many even joined the march. The police reacted rather passive, but they know for sure that massive arrestings could lead to international protests. Only the notorious special squad WEGA, which is known for its high (80%) percentage of FPOE devotees, started to get rather aggressive in the end. Sumed up a great evening, especially because the human rights organization didn't manage to keep the protests just as quiet and "friendly" as they wanted to. Further actions are planned for the next days (and weeks). Protest against Austrian departments and authorities, show them that a partcipation of the fascist FPOE will not be tolerated - NOWHERE! Rosa Antifa Wien (RAW) ***** 1.2.2000 WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS DONE TO HUMAN RIGHTS AND HUMAN DIGNITY IN OUR COUNTRY. We do not feel obliged to claim Austria's "innocence". The to-be government is in support of the majority of Austria's population. We have no reason to claim Haider is "just another" populist. He is not. He is a populist that operates with xenophobia, racism and the denial of the Holocaust. The major threat is not the increase of direct violence against minorities. The major threat is the signal that far right agitation and action is not only ok but earns you a place in government. As opportunism is one of the most prominent features of the "Austrian mentality", this is a severe political danger. We have reason to be afraid of * the final end of refugee or integration policies * increasing xenophobia, racism and even antisemitism, because Austia has never faced its past and now people have governmental legitimation for such attitudes * law and order policies instead of co-operative strategies to deal with crime and conflict * abolition of progressive women's policies (e.g. the post of the minister for women's affairs will be cancelled and replaced by an extended family ministery) * severe restrictions to freedom of art, especially where it puts a finger on the state of the Austrian society (already, in Carinthia, artists are faced with political limitations to their work) * restrictions to the freedom of press, because subsidies for critical media products will most certainly be cut down we don't know yet what to do about it. we need both your solidarity and your ongoing critisism. don't stop looking at our country. To the international community Declaration of the Austrian antiracist movement In this moment of Austrian history we are deeply concerned with the political developments in our country. For more than 10 years, many NGOs, initiatives and smaller parties have tried to change the austrian racist reality without success. In the new millenium, Austria still is not a democracy but a national democracy. More than 10 % of our population is systematically denied all political rights and participation, often even for decades, they are kept in the status of "foreigners". Even in the trade-unions, there are no equal voting rights for all workers and employees. This system, guaranteeing equality not to human beeings but to citizens only, is unique in Europe. Since a democratic system has been imposed on Austria after World War II, not only the conservatives and the right wing, but also the governing social democrats fortified this system of nationalistic and racist segregation and exclusion. This lack of balance in the political system led to the uprising of a party that is openly promoting a revision of Nazi history, using racism as an effective political tool due to the lack of a counterveilling power. Even the killing of Marcus Omofuma during his deportation on May 1st 1999 did not lead to any antiracist measures. On the contrary, police action, especially against people with African background, increased drastically. Charles O., major activist, writer and poet from Nigeria, was even accused of being a drug-boss and imprisoned for 3 months, before he had to be released due to complete lack of evidence and major charges were dropped. Nevertheless these practices led to significant intimidation of the Black communities in their political campaigning. Under such unfair conditions of criminalisation and the lack of democratic rights, we welcome initiatives from the side of the international community that put pressure on Austrian representatives. Austria is facing a drastic swing to the right. With a right-conservative government things will even get worse for people discriminated on grounds of racism, including the Jewish minority, as well as for people discriminated on the grounds of sexual orientation, sexual identity or on the grounds of being physically handicaped. For some years now, Austria is known in the European Union for its attempts to radically alter the politics towards a demontage of the Geneva Convention and the denial of asylum for refugees. Austria has become the home-base for right-wing policies, threatening emancipatory movements all over Europe. Therefore it is in the self-interest of all democratic powers in Europe to try to reverse the political currents in Austria. We want to encourage all international steps in this direction, hoping that the European Union at least has learned from history, while the official Austria has not. Under any government to come, Austria should finally change towards a fair democratic system which includes the right to vote for all permanent inhabitants, in which there is an anti-discrimination-law with respective enforcement, in which immigrants are not treated as enemies and in which human rights are really respected. Platform for a world without racism Vienna, 1.2.2000 more informations on: http://gegenschwarzblau.cjb.net/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 21:50:16 +0100 From: valery grancher <vgranger@imaginet.fr> Subject: (no subject) Hi everybody, I try to reach the Ars Electronica Center in Linz Austria website and I cannot !!! I have right now my website hosted on : http://residence.aec.at/nomemory http://web.aec.at/nomemory I ask to Ars Electronica center to delete right now this website from their server and to delete my name on their website. I don't want to see anymore my name on a site hosted in Austria where nazi are emerging with the austrian population support where Joerg Haider is winning election !!!! Yours, Valery Grancher vgranger@imaginet.fr http://www.nomemory.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Maryandruskin@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:50:12 EST Subject: No Subject <<The SWP is a group of socialists who think that the various issues we all care about --- >>> And the SWP has a party line that they expect total adherence to -- one issue they DON'T get is free speech. Ciao, Mary - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: "Frank Hartmann" <frank.hartmann@chello.at> Subject: Come ski in Austria Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:57:21 +0100 COME SKI IN AUSTRIA Welcome to the politically incorrect pasttime? (ref. todays quote by Belgian minister of foreign affairs) As a theorist, and known for not being patriotic at all, I find it hard to raise my voice concerning politics in Austria at this very moment. But the following incompetent statement by Robert Fleck yesterday gave me the kick: >As you know, Austria got today the first federal government since the end >of World War Second with a big participation of nazis. Nazis! Nazis as you know! There is a very cheap reply to this, by simply stating the fact that Fleck is just simply wrong to judge the situation. Our all beloved socialist chancellor Kreisky was the only one who in the 70s - knowingly - involved formerly active Nazis in the government. Haider sure is the right-wing populist, as any country has one. No "Nazi"-Haider in government now. The government which will be sworn in tomorrow by conservative president Klestil - who already kicked two hardliners out of the list today - is interesting at first glance, bringing in a new apporach including a lot of young and female people (Women as vice-chancellor, as secretary of state for the chancellor, as minister for social affairs, as minister for education and science, of tourism). I simply state but not judge this fact, because we all do not know these people well but might have cheered them if they came out of a socialist background, not knowing them well either. If the outcome of a vote is not socialist, do you now question the vote, socialism, or democracy? This rhetorical question implies my presumption that most of the political functions, be it a national or international level, nowadays simply are not legitimized in a democratic way or form. These political persons are "nominated". The coice of voting a PERSON is an illusion. But I still do put trust in the democratic INSTITUTIONS. Haider and some hardliners are lurking in the background for sure, but they are not in the government (yet?) which for now will have the main task to fulfill the Maastricht criteria, in which the socialists, due to stubborn unionists plea, simply failed. They say we have a political "media-debate" going on at the moment. When I read the newspapers, I only recognize a severe moralistic contrition. There is a CAMARILLA of pseudo-socialist cultural workers out there, functionaries, curatators, and what-have-you, who know nothing else than suckling on the tits of mother state for the past twenty years, whilst being "socialist" promised to have access to the biggest boob. Now the lesson of all this is: the end of the "red pack alliance" (local slang). I recognize it these days, all around me. They are not political, they just are addicted to the biggest boob. Now they fear to be rejected by it. Anyway, there also is a lot of "klammheimliche Freude" (sorry, German-illiterates, this is tricky) included these days. There are just too many low-qualified, yet fat-assed functionaries of the working class around - since it is not allowed to any more behead them (as a practice with formerly ruling classes) the folks go out to vote for Haider. It is a simple symbolic sans-culottes action what we can wittness here. I talked to some hip-hop youngsters these days, who pack their stuff to go snowboarding for winter vacation. They find it very exiting to experience this time of political change. Change, and just for the sake of it. Their parents lived in an illusion bubble for the past twenty years, cherishing a view of politics with a "nothing should happen/nothing can happen"- attitude. If you would have seen any of the formerly ruling politicians on TV, you would sympathize. Sophisticated as we are (are we not?), we know that it is not that simple. Frank - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 02:53:03 +0100 From: "Mihajlo Acimovic" <mihajlo5@angelfire.com> Subject: Austria, isolation and other ideas I`ll throw these ideas into your face, so you can try and make some sense out of them. I`m too tired to do so. Since the nazis and conservatives declared they have achieved an agreement to make a government, EU reactions have been very harsh, as well as the reactions of many Austrians. There are thousands of Austrians supporting the idea of isolating Austria internationally, because they say this would take money away from Austria and that would make Austrians learn something. I know this situation from the example of Yugoslavia. The only possible results of an isolationist policy are nazification of new Austrian generations, a further self-closing of Austria, mass poverty for the people, an excellent excuse for the powermongers to steal all the money which people have because "we are under unjustified and unprovoked sanctions. We call upon all our citizens to endure...", etc. There has never been a positive result out of an isolationist or sanctionist policy, nor will there be. A boycott of Austrian products will have only an effect that Austrians will boycott foreign products, everything will be more expensive and the multinationals will still be operating without problems. Why should I buy something that costs more money and is of lower quality, to make people in Austria poor? Did Milosevic become poor because of sanctions? Did Sadam? Did the sanctions overthrow their governments? Would Haider become poor, because I don`t buy Austrian products? Besides, I don`t believe that Haider and the conservatives have made a government without consent from their bosses. If you look at it historically, the neoliberal media (including state television) and political parties (especially socialdemocrats) have been doing everything possible to strenghten the nazis, give them more money, more power, more popular support. Greens weren`t any better. They say FPOe is a neofascist party. Ok, so why are the Greens in local coalitions with the FPOe annd Conservatives, in some places? Do the Greens think it`s ok to be in coalition with a neofascist party? Most Socialdemocrats voters are heavily against Haider and only voted for SPOe, to made Haider loose. So, SPOe couldn`t go into coalition with the nazis, albeight they strongly wanted to. Otherwise, we`d be looking at a coalition of nazis and socialdemocrats (which is methodologically much closer) If EU introduces santions, that would further close it`s borders to migrants from the east and increase the walls of Fortress Europe. We`ll see today if pres. Klestil will allow the new government, but I think he will. Legally, they aren`t the government yet. If he refuses to inaugurate them, there will for sure be new elections. Simply, Socialdemocrats and Conseratives, who have been in coalition together for 13 years, are pretending they don`t want to be in coalition anymore. If they aren`t in the coalition, the only possible coalition in the present parliament, is somebody together with the nazis. EU said they wouldn`t give jobs to Austrians if they have a choice. Will that weaken Haider? No. The Austrians which would normally get EU jobs and be against Haider, will now have no other option but to ask Haider`s people for jobs. Then, these Austrians will have to be loyal to Haider, or they loose their jobs. EU is doing everything it can to strenghten Haider. It is making a big rethoric against him, so anti-foreigner Austrians will support him. At the same time, EU is not making any moves which can really endanger Haider (and it can). Most supermarkets in Austria and 90% newspapers are owned by a german company. That includes the nazi newspaper called Kronen Zeitung, which is read by over 2 000 000 people in a country of 8 000 000. If the German company was simply to denazify the editorial policy of the Kronen Zeitung and other newspapers, Haider could be half-crushed already. They won`t, because it was them who brought Haider to power. There is no morals in EU sanctions against Austria. The EU is responsible for Haider`s comming to power. Thei entire game of "isolating fascists" will only empoverish Austrians. It will strenghten the nazis. There is no conflict between EU and the nazis. EU are the nazis. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 11:43:12 +0000 From: "<<bernhard>>" <bernhard@allquiet.org> Organization: <<ALL.QUIET>> Subject: Re: <nettime> Do not exhibit any longer in Austria! How could one oppose this without being misunderstood? This is wrong as far as facts are concerned as well as it is completely wrong as an approach to deal with the new right wing populist malaise in Austria and all over europe. Someone who wants to see himself as as intellectual should be able to develop a slightly more differentiated point of view. It is just untrue that there is repression against artists in Austria. Instead of making pointless comparisons with the past and calling for cultural boycotts Mr. Fleck should support the austrian art scene and help to develop a strategy how to stand up against the right wing malaise. If there is hope at the moment it is the fact that Austria is a part of Europe and can't be seen as a separate entity anymore. And there are 73% austrians who have not voted for Mr. Haider. Bernhard Robert Fleck wrote: > Nantes, 2.2.2000 > > Dear friends, > > As you know, Austria got today the first federal government since the end [91 lines of oriig message deleted for digest--mod] -- Bernhard Loibner ALL.QUIET bernhard@allquiet.org http://www.allquiet.org/ ____________________ "Komponieren ist ein Synonym für komputieren." Villem Flusser - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 14:18:05 +0100 Subject: Re: <nettime> Do not exhibit any longer in Austria! From: "M Grootveld" <rabotnik@xs4all.nl> To: Robert Fleck <FleckRob@aol.com>, nettime-l@bbs.thing.net Dear Robert, I think it is very dangerous to call people like Joerg Haider outright fascists and nazis. Although I acknowledge your expertise in Austrian politics and although I share your concern for what is happening there, I do not think that we should resort to the kind of radical steps you propose. Usually these measures prove to be very counterproductive and only give these bastards an excuse to do what you are trying to prevent them from doing. They will also isolate these forces in Austrian society which are against extreme nationalism, xenophobia and racial hate. In general I tend to believe that the real danger lies in the fact that apparently so many Austrians do not have any problem with voting for such a despicable character as Mr Haider. Even if the man would be removed from the scene, these peope would still be willing to vote for whatever other idiot that would take over his place. This is to a large extent the responsibility of the two parties that have ruled Austria basically since World War 2, the socialists and the christian democrats. Probably the Austrian writer Robert Menasse is right is saying that the present situation is to be preferred compared with the old one: in both cases there is a conservative government, but previously it was faced by a rightwing opposition and that has changed now into a leftwing oposition. And finally: at least Joerg Haider hasn't got a moustache! Menno Grootveld Amsterdam # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net