Lachlan Brown on Sat, 29 Sep 2001 21:03:19 +0200 (CEST) |
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Yes, History returned in a spectacular way, as it tends to do, specifically the 'slaughter house of history' but the post-modern thing about it is not that History, per se, the Am-Eurocentric Historical canon and its hagiography has returned. It is the very thing that went up in the flames. When I say 'History' I mean 'many histories in globalisation' as many histories as were contained in those terrible projectiles and those terrible buildings. How many cultures, how many ethnicities, religions, how many classes and castes, what ages, what opinions, beliefs, dreams, turned upside down and inside out? It happened in NYC (of course, where else would it happen?) but it also happened in Britain, Bangladesh, in Malaysia, Australia, dozens from almost every country. It doesn't need to happen in Afghanistan because it has already happened there and they, and we, really do not need anymore of this shit. I will be writing again. (One) of my server(s) http://third.net went down yesterday. Lachlan Brown lac<--! -- >hlan<sigh>@</sigh>lon<dumbeddown>don http://thir<publishing peace>d.n<broken>et http://difference.ca <whenever...you're ready .ca> http://coali<everyone from my family to my friends, to colleagues to former colleagues attacked me (some quite literally assaulted me) over making this project>tion.org.uk - drawing the line on hate online and racism anywhere. difference engine 1994 - 2001 - 'it makes common sense, but it hasn't been common sense for very long' DM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Funny how history is measured in "eventness". Historians have been lingering over the fall of the Berlin Wall for the last decade as the symbolic final fall of the modern with the ruins of soviet communism. In a world where conflict was less visible and where threats could not so easily be identified, it was pretty easy to drift on with the sense that no matter how repulsive a thought it was, Fukuyama might have been right about something in that great mess of a book... Without identifiable grand "events" or threats to American model capitalism, we could have been excused for believing that there was a certain remoteness from history itself in the West (and that's the same thing as the postmodern sense of unreality)... With the recent attacks, history has perhaps returned. Rob. * To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> * Subject: <nettime> [ot]FW.:.the era of postmodernism ended:.: * From: Leili <nethics@cyberosis.tv> * Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:12:39 +0800 * Delivered-To: nettime-archive@nettime.khm.de ---------- From: Aleksandr Gitelman <alichek@juno.com> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:12:49 -0700 To: nethics@cyberosis.tv Subject: remember me? [...] you know, i read someone saying that with the fall of the twin towers which were a perfectly postmodernist piece of architecture -- reflections of each other without an original -- the era of postmodernism ended. self-reference, irony, repetition, etc., all the attributes of postmodernism which basically devoid creation of reality, authenticity will be now void as reality came down crashing a hundred stories and rendered things meaningful. [...] alec. -- ____________________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 Powered by Outblaze _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold