Curt Cloninger on Thu, 27 Sep 2001 03:11:14 +0200 (CEST)


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you know, i read someone saying that with the fall of the twin towers
which were a perfectly postmodernist piece of architecture -- reflections
of each other without an original -- the era of postmodernism ended.
self-reference, irony, repetition, etc., all the attributes of
postmodernism which basically devoid creation of reality, authenticity
will be now void as reality came down crashing a hundred stories and
rendered things meaningful.

- Aleksandr Gitelman


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This is a personal feeling, not an academic response. I hope
from now on we will know what we mean when we say that
criticism cannot touch art in the way that raw experiences
can; right now I don't care about theory. I want an art
devoid of the terrible burden of its history- something
that shows us it is okay to stay naive.

- Eryk Salvaggio


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When instead the reading is "no art can be made now, or not in any 
form but this [black page]" then yes, my objection is so violent that 
under certain circumstances I actually become angered...

I reject the trivialization of art in all its forms, most definitely incl the
idea that it isn't or can't be a crucial human activity in its own right.
People are making art right now.  Some are making it in response to all that is
going on... that is the best way for them to order & prioritize the dizzying
kaleidoscope of information, raw response, & shifting perceptions of 
fundamental
valuation which they are being subjected to RIGHT NOW.  Theirs is not 
an "art of
observation", it is an "art of mediation", an "art of process", an "art of
transformation".  The spontaneous gestures we see all around now, from
make-shift shrines, to displays of devotion, to registries of endurance &
sacrifice... in an *artist's* hands these humble things can become profound.

- Peter von Brandenburg


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