camille acey on Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:06:26 +0200 (CEST) |
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what is this supposed to be ? It is just barely comprehensible. What does "familize" mean ? give us a break. whereas zizek's piece was an astute analysis of the event and its aftermath, o'neill's piece is a step below an ignorant rant. i am looking for intelligent and radical ways to think about this situation, not a pseudo-intellectual play-by-play. camille --- John Armitage <john.armitage@unn.ac.uk> wrote: > > Hi all, > Here is a reply to Zizek from John O'Neill, > originally posted to the > Cyber-Society-Live list. > > Some may find it useful. > > Best wishes > > John > ================================================= > DESERTING THE REAL / GOING TO THE MOVIES > > John O'Neill > > Should we run into the movie house with S/Z every > time we see something > on TV? Don't we miss TV's attempt to make a movie > that we are just about > to see but for which its commentators lack narrative > power? > > (1) We know what hit WTC and possibly who --but we > don't know what WTC > is nor who we are; > > (2) If we pair WTC and WTO we get a better > sense of them and > ourselves, recalling their contested status in > protests played out > world-wide (Seattle, Quebec City, Genoa) beyond the > newly improvised > walls of capital democracy; > > (3) If we twin the WTC towers with WTO, we > achieve intellectual > perspective by connecting iconology to the material > practices of global > capitalism. The WTC was a glass house of capital > brains and bodies, > young, powerful, plugged into money, style, and the > nomadic life of the > twenty/eighty split that rules symbolic capitalism's > division of social > labour into highly and lowly valued services; > > (4) The terrible destruction of WTC demands > in the first > instance that its bodies be Americanized, familized > and averaged into > "anyone of us". At the same time, there is staged > the recovery of these > bodies by civic bodies (firemen / women, police men > and women, security > men and women and other citizens willing to > sacrifice themselves on > behalf of capital bodies who at other times seek to > be unburdened by > such duties, charity, and the taxes that underwrite > these municipal > services. > > (5) The critical challenge is to connect the > intellectual > perspective we might gain with the moral perspective > offered to us in > the scenes of extraordinary civic responses to the > disaster which fell > upon New York and Washington. TV is witness to these > moral events but > lacks any liturgical knowledge to fill in its > otherwise empty icons > whose endless repetition begins to numb our minds > and hearts. Perhaps > this is because we know our resolve to learn from > them is weak and soon > overwhelmed with cries for revenge that do not close > the wound but keep > it open for ever; > > (6) Any pop commentary, eked out by > comparing movies to movies, > is weak in its response to civic events that require > us to think through > the daily toll upon workers, families and > communities. It is they who > bear the human capital sacrifice that calls for > witness at the site of > WTC. Here the hidden injuries of modernity mark us > all. > > (7) It is a conceit of commentary that the > world's integrity can > be filtered through its analysts and anchor persons > whereas it is the > inalienable gift of everyone who lent a hand to > anyone else in need. The > catastrophic events that opened this week also tore > out of us an > unfinished prayer to anyone's god anywhere......It > is in the silence of > those gods that we must learn to think and to hold > together. > > John O'Neill > Distinguished Research Professor of Sociology > 227 Founders College, > York University, Toronto, M3J 1P3, Canada > (Home) 416-653-8838 > (Office) 416-736-5148 > (Fax) 416-653-7323 > > **************************************************************************** > ******** > Distributed through Cyber-Society-Live [CSL]: CSL is > a moderated discussion > list made up of people who are interested in the > interdisciplinary academic > study of Cyber Society in all its manifestations.To > join the list please > visit: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/cyber-society-live.html > **************************************************************************** > ********* > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use > without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net > criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural > politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info > nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold