Paul D. Miller on Wed, 5 Sep 2001 03:41:45 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] <nettime> The US-Mexico Border |
Hi Coco - no I didn't make it to the event, but I made sure to have it covered when I was editor at large of Artbyte (although, ha ha, Mark Dery stole the idea and copied my concept....), and this year I also helped promote it on-line because of other obligations on my time and energy in the "real" world - as a matter of fact, this year I threw a bash at Burning Man celebrating Buckminster Fuller's ideas on ecology and architecture(do we always have to only do what's expected of our ethnic groups?) ..... No I don't speak Spanish but, again, it's a progressive situation, and in this day and age, the borderhack concept represents something that I think could and should be a place to find linkages between cultures rather than hairsplitting over ideological differences..... I'm all for the notion of art in action, and considering at the moment that President Fox is in the U.S. to promote his coca-cola brand remix of Mexico in the face of the inertia caused by the Institutional Revolutionary Party (what a paradoxical name... worthy of Huxley or Orwell, or for that matter Jose Donoso or Augusto Boal...), I think that the moment was opportune to try this kind of thing out. I did, however, loan use of my music for elements of the borderhack website... and I have a pretty big following on-line, and I hope that the music helped bring people to the site.... anyway, it's always my first impulse to applaud new energy and to try to figure out ways to dynamically place what's happening in a context that creates bridges between scenes and cultures.... thus the support - even though I'm African American and distant from that particular border situation... In the U.S., as with the internet, the borders amongst race/class/social hierarchy aren't as clear cut as a basic geographical situation like the U.S. Mexico Border (I remember that when I posted on my views of Mark Dery, Pit Schultz wrote me to say I was middle class and I asked him "do all black people have to be from the ghetto?" and never heard a response....) but anyway, that's a different border... his silence, like many of the bland old left oriented folks that are simply rhetoricians of some kind of neo-romantic notion of avoiding any kind of dialog about the reality of how technology impacts the way we think about identity and techno-science, spoke much much more about the kind of emptiness of the old left... but I don't want to get caught up in this kind of dialog between two folks who I respect alot like you and Fran... I just think "hey, why not check out the situation and see what kind of linkages can be built." To quote Manuel Delanda, a philosopher of technology who happens to be Mexican, "human history is a narrative of contingencies, not necessities, of missed opportunities to follow different routes of development, not of a unilinear succession of ways to convert energy, matter, and information into cultural products..." The idea for me, here and now, is to bring new energy to the mix, and to figure out ways to open the culture I live in... on this topic, there's a great new book about "connection theory" from Steven Johnson called "Emergence" that I think you might be into. For folks like Pit Schultz, I guess I'm not from what KRS-1 called "ghettoes of the mind." To me, most boundaries are imaginary. It's all about the mix... what next? A borderhack Israel and Palesine might be interesting.... That's a mix I'd like to check out.... but again, hey, maybe we need the palestinian equivalent of what Fran's up to... that'd be pretty wild... okay, peace as always, Paul >Paul, > There has been the best, most politically complex dialogue on nettime-latino >in ages about borderhack2, which you may not know about because it has been >in Spanish. My comments are in response to that debate and to zillions of >emails from confused Europeans about the border. I stand by my critiques of >the bullshit pseudotheorizing that dominates nettime, cyberculture and the >appropriation of the US-Mexico border as a hip site for net.nurds, and more >that critique will be in my next book. Old timers like me at least have a >memory which can be useful in moments when the young and restless are putting >their feet in their mouths. Fran doesn't need to be defended, really, >especially if you weren't even at the event this year or last. >Peace, >Coco ============================================================================ Port:status>OPEN wildstyle access: www.djspooky.com Paul D. Miller a.k.a. Dj Spooky that Subliminal Kid Subliminal Kid Inc. Office Mailing Address: Music and Art Management 245 w14th st #2RC NY NY 10011 _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold