richard barbrook on Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:50:04 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Potlatch (was: Re: <nettime> Garcia/Lovink: The GHI of TacticalMedia) |
Hiya, Here are some belated comments on a recent posting from Jim Carrico. The details of his interesting scheme on: <www.potlatch.net>: * The potlatch was designed to *prevent* abundance not facilitate it. Tribal societies were threatened by the accumulation of wealth by their leaders turning into fixed class divisions. The potlatch hindered this process by encouraging the giving away (or destroying) of surpluses. Being good liberals, the English colonialists were - not surprisingly - outraged by such "irrational" behaviour... * It is not universally accepted that money regulates the scarcity of *things*. This may be the academic orthodoxy, but it is debatable whether this is what is actually happening within capitalist societies (see Adam Smith and his admirers). What money could be doing is regulating the division of labour, i.e. the scarcity of *time*. While it is fun to point out that neo-classical price theory implies that cost of digital information is zero, this ideology can't explain why the labour used for making this information often does have a price. * The token system advocated by potlatch.net seems very much like another form of money to me. Could it simply be a digital form of LETS scheme? These can work where the tokens circulate within a smallish group of people, are not transferable into hard currency and can't be accumulated. Within a global information society, these limitations seem to be unenforceable. Wouldn't 'star' musicians (or programmers, writers or whatever) be paid too many tokens for them to distribute back into a parallel economy. It is much more likely that they'll want their success turned into material goods and services from the mainstream economy. Sooner or later, people would be selling tokens for dollars (or euros, yen, etc.) - and therefore turning the tokens into another form of money. * The Situationists popularised potlatch as a political concept because it showed that societies could flourish without any money (or tokens). However, social relationships inside tribes were formed between people who knew each other and were usually related. In contrast, we live in societies where most of our social relationships are with strangers who we'll never meet. Money, states, corporations and other impersonal structures have long seemed to be the only methods of regulating such connections. This is why the Situationists' potlatch metaphor was dismissed as utopian during the 1960s. Yet, from our experiences on the Net, it is being slowly realised that giving gifts can also create these impersonal relationships. As long as we're getting more back in return from others, we don't need payment from each and every person who appropriates our labour. Tokens are *not* needed to regulate a hi-tech gift economy. Free gifts can remain free! * Why does *all* information work need to be paid for? The revival of the potlatch metaphor reflects an interesting contemporary phenomenon. Like our tribal ancestors, many people are now using their surplus time in an "irrational" fashion, i.e. working for free rather than for money. As in the past, they're not being entirely unselfish. They also hope to gain respect, admiration and even things in return for their efforts. But what they're not doing is *directly* buying and selling labour time. A gift is a gift even when given away for an ulterior motive... All the best. Later, Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Richard Barbrook Hypermedia Research Centre School of Communications and Creative Industries University of Westminster Watford Road Northwick Park HARROW HA1 3TP <www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk> landline: +44 (0)20 7911 5000 x 4590 mobile: 07879-441873 ------------------------------------------------------------------- "While there is irony, we are still living in the prehistoric age. And we are not out of it yet..." - Henri Lefebvre ------------------------------------------------------------------- The HRC is involved in running regular cybersalons at the ICA in London. If you would like to be informed about forthcoming events, you can subscribe to a listserver on our website: <www.cybersalon.org>. _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold